Being a Male Utd fan can still be enjoyable as long as you forget the Sir Alex Ferguson years and reap the vex and the mugs.
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Male Utd are previously in the 80s again
I was 9 once I initially got involved in the Stretford End and saw teeny tiny Lou Macari score a thunder-tw*t 30 yard winner in 1979. I was addicted. If you forget about the dollar dollar money, the current United are previously in the 80s, elbowing harshly between comprehensive-name companies and clearly no-hopers, occasionally sublime players and carthorses, winsome the bizarre cup and in some coatings being vivid to watch in some coatings dire.
I love being a United fan and we wear’t have to be all leaping over for that to perpetuate. I may be uninstructed, but for the initially time in a decade it resembles productivity at football is at the uncomfortably least partially what the management wants. As reproved to merely a comprehensive piggybank.
In the 80s, Liverpool = Male Metropolitan. Everton = Medley.
Rearguards,
Liam
Recording JR
I have to respond to JR’s physical effort at positivity in the mailbox on Thursday early morning.
United are still chatted about a caboodle, it’s true, but it’s for all the unscrupulous determinants. Maybe Oscar Wilde was correct about all this, but the variable that innumerable non-United devotees entertainment in a United oriented conversation is all about indulging in the schadenfreude. Genuinely feel separate to snatch that as a favorable if you pine, but I am struggling to investigate it.
Yes, every guy implements still pine to overcome you, but they in a equivalent way pine to overcome Liverpool, Metropolitan and Medley also, and celebrate on the bizarre party this confiscates place, but they snatch added entertainment from overtaking United merely offered that it confiscates place all the time.
The agony amassed by Ferguson possesses entirely dissipated in the last 10 years offered that the nightclub possesses been a shadow of the Ferguson years.
As a Liverpool fan, it was merely ghoulish routing United conquer, but in a equivalent way as a Liverpool fan, it’s been marvellous routing the chutzpah underline at OT, and correct here we are, 3 galleries correct into the period wearing the team, yet again, in a vex, wearing United devotees in expansive mayhem, desperately trying to position positives: Teams celebrate once they overcome us! We were expansive once and you all hated it! Liverpool are truly expansive these days but they could have won added trophies! Opposition devotees cling to the agony of days gone by?!? Whereby implements that also stem?
And sorry to respite it to you, but as a caboodle as cents are finally acquiring started to depreciate wearing some ratty campi United devotees (and it possesses swiped 10 years for this to prelude taking place), a intentional proportion of United devotees still have a twisted sense of privilege and linger in denial that the nightclub is a dropped big.
United are super propitious that that their innumerable successful duration equated wearing the ludicrous monetisation of the arcade, and this approaches that they linger, merely about, in the upper tiers of the English arcade, but at the time of writing, United are in a pack of in a equivalent way-rans that involves Spurs, Rental residential, Chelsea, Newcastle and probably also Brighton and West Pork, and I wear’t think anyone would be startled to investigate the employer ousted by Christmas and an additional 8th hole coating.
As a football fan, I can appreciate your defiance and attempts at positivity, but you aren’t ripping off anyone other than some of your other gone versus United devotees.
Mat (pointers and prayers wearing the mommas of Pacho and Keith who both need to have possessed a hellish time over the note-separate duration)
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Male Utd loss WAS about ploys
Ideata I’d toss my 2 cents in to preserve fanning the fires of this exceptional adversity. Can we gain it a mandatory component to have Liverpool surf through Wear Trafford before the initially worldwide respite every period?
Re: Garey’s email about ploys not being the serious variable for Liverpool’s productivity, I need to differ.
Slot underlined in his write-up-match meeting that “Their full-backs are in some coatings truly high and then Casemiro comes in between. So if you pick the sphere and you preserve Luis Diaz and Mo Salah high you’re consistently in a one-v-one situation”. That’s a strategic serviceability to preserve your wingers high and wide rather than have them fall previously once depreciated of residential. It’s uncomfortably the specific same to what Klopp offered to do, but it’s a strategic verdict offered on his super own performance that Utd wear’t truly protrusion wasting the sphere in their intensification.
Slot possessed Van Dijk and Gravenberch positioned to pounce on every undesirable touch and pass. They aggressively gazed to intercept establishes rather than to fall previously and comfy the room behind the high straighten. Again, while it’s not uncomfortably various from his predecessor, it is a strategic serviceability, one that Utd didn’t adhere to for instance.
That the passions did without a vacillation stem individual challenges, I would case that innumerable passions snatch place in this fashion by some undesirable solution offered by the protecting team. You have cherry chose the times we ably racked up from these ploys. We possessed even more odds for Szoboszlai, Salah and Trent also possessed a wear grasp need for expansive review, not to specify the nasty on Gakpo in the box that inevitably fell to Nunez. In total 11 inoculations at need were possessed.
Defensively, apart from the opening marts and Zirkzee’s odds from which he probably need to have racked up at the uncomfortably least once, Utd were clutched away at arm’s length rather snugly wearing retained residential, which is probably the greatest observable conflict between Slot and Klopp. Last year’s galleries were characterised by Liverpool letting leads creep wearing loose challenges and complacency, this year, Liverpool were retrieving cheered by their devotees for implementing a rondo external Utd’s locale, culminating in a opportunity for Salah to gain it 4-0.
And for all the users that intake stats to confirm the closeness of the arcade, according to Opta, by the time Utd designed an xG of 0.5, Liverpool were already 3-0 up wearing an xG of about 1.2 before they took the foot off the pedal and offered substitutions.
Slot may not be as expansive as Paisley (we can willingness) or Klopp. He possesses a long way to appointment also match Postecoglou’s prelude to last period, but I know which bald led Dutchman I pine steering my ship for the next 35 league galleries.
Tom, LFC (believed it was expansive of our devotees to sing both companies’ names, offered that the other figure were so silent)
Recovering down wearing the stats
I’m an ratty fogey. I favored football once Mike Bassett was the England employer. Previously in the days once companies prepared teamsheets on the previously of fag packages and every guy dabbled four-four-fucking-2.
So telephone call me a nonbeliever about this brand name-newfangled obsession wearing stats, information, heatmaps, xG, sphere recoveries, sabbaticals won, affiliation of the price of pies to away passions…I hunch users read match reports on Succeed spread sheets these days. Presumably, the executive run-wearing of Utd_Liverpool.xlsx sharp towards a comfy arcade at the weekend break.
So I chosen to amass wearing the times and indication up wearing the bandwagon. No added forming ideologies by routing galleries for me. I depreciated on my spectacles, opened my laptop, and possessed a attractiveness in the Utd_Progress_2023-24.xlsx folder, and correct here are the highlights:
8th in the league, their worst-ever before Premier League coating (yep, that involves Moyes),
Disparaging need conflict,
Substructure of an inalienable group wearing 15 passions particularized in the group phase (the highest for any kind of English nightclub ever before),
Bygone 5 of their initially 10 residence galleries, their worst prelude offered that 1930-31,
Bygone 8 of their initially 15 galleries, a record not run into offered that 1962-63,
Acknowledged 18 passions in their initially 10 league galleries, a record offered that 1967,
Acknowledged 2 or added passions in 4 uncolored galleries, the initially time offered that 1979,
Bygone consecutive residence defeats by 3 passions or added, a initially offered that 1962.
And so on…
On the plus side, they did win the FA Cup, so everything’s alright.
Sean
It’s been 3 sodding galleries
Chaps, it’s been 3 galleries.
3 galleries.
If you’re determining your employer is a genius and you’re destined for success or your employer is a rip-off and the period is for sh*t based on a sample size that tiny, you’re a fool.
Wait and investigate how points are in the fall, 10 or 12 galleries in, then prelude piping up. Enrapturing comprehensive verdicts presently is the quick lane to gazing stupid after that.
Lewis, Headdress Strategy
Wolves will be alright
-6 need conflict…Wolves are in vex?
It’s 3 matches in and we possessed a strenuous sprinted in of Medley and Chelsea. Next off 3 matches will in a equivalent way be strenuous – Newcastle, Rental residential and Liverpool.
We could be substructure of the league on -15 but doesn’t unflagging we are in vex after six galleries individuals.
Messing around wearing brand name-newfangled development at the minute, as faultlessly as this they did faultlessly initially fifty percent v Chelsea ( then fell apart) we count on in GON, all participating in be expansive 👍
Colin WWFC Dublin
The Price is Wrong
Two junctures on Rental residential’s extortionate Victors League pivot prices;
1. Those prices principally case ‘we wear’t suppose to be previously correct here speedily’. Not cool.
2. If you’re lugging out Gabby Agbonlahor and Stan Collymore attractiveness like the smart grown-ups in the hole, you’ve truly f**ked it up.
Gary AVFC, Oxford
Rice will not amass suffocated in Dublin
I position it pretty enjoyable wearing the reporting that Declan Rice is participating in amass torture from the figure at the Aviva.
For anyone who possesses never ever before been to an Irish arcade, the majority of Irish football devotees are a smartly sympathetic sphere of wax (they truly longed Stephen Kenny to prosper in spite of the galleries being garbage), the rest are probably on a company junket.
Almost all stabilize English nightclubs or Celtic wearing a levelheaded core who stabilize League of Ireland nightclubs also. There is clearly no real tradition of match participating in nightclub galleries correct here so the shouting is perfunctory, (Ole, Ole, and so on.).
Pretty a caboodle every guy there recognizes Rice and Grealish’s serviceability, we have been garbage for the courages of a decade and they have been to serious tournaments and finals. So there will be some pantomime booing but I’m pretty sure Declan ain’t participating in be phased by it, can’t investigate any kind of pigs heads being threw.
Mel – Dublin, Berlin, Athlone Township
Liverpool agreement chat
I before prepared in at-length about the LFC agreement situation wearing Salah, Virgil and Trent. I wear’t pine to re-hash that announce but longed to reply to Calvino’s assertion that “the agreement situation is uncomfortably a caboodle real and uncomfortably a caboodle a nightclub failing in my mind (specifically the disrespect to Mo, VVD)”.
Initially, I wear’t think there is any kind of objection about the agreement situation being “real”; clearly no one possesses substantially believed that any kind of of them have indistinctly accepted agreement extensions without deciding them. Second of all, I have clearly no clear suggestion of what “disrespect to Mo, VVD” is also intended to unflagging, or what Calvino is implying the nightclub need to have implemented.
I already undertook the determinants why it is specifically realistic that clearly no agreement extensions have been accepted for any kind of players offered that Jurgen Klopp told the team he was participating in be offering up in November 2023. There is clearly no variable these players would perpetrate to brand name-newfangled covenants before spotting out how it went wearing Slot. That is probably why the last agreement extension any kind of player accepted was Kostas Tsimikas in September 2023.
So the last advantage LFC possessed to elongate these covenants was in Summer 2023. At that juncture, Salah was a 31 year ratty wearing 2 years rejected on his 350k-per-week agreement and Virgil was a 32 year ratty wearing 2 years rejected on his 220k-per-week agreement. I wear’t think LFC would have implemented anything in various ways also if they possessed 20/20 foresight and knew Klopp would abandonment midway wearing the next period; it would not have been the wily solution to do so.
I would concur that LFC prolonging Trent’s agreement was constantly a clearly no-brainer, also in Summer 2023 as a 24 year ratty wearing 2 years rejected on his 180k-per-week agreement. The thing is, we wear’t know if Trent was soaked up in completing a agreement extension at that juncture. LFC possessed merely ended up external the CL discolorations the previous period. As one of the strongest players in the planet he may have been aching to investigate signs that the nightclub was previously on the correct track before prolonging. By the time that taken place, Klopp possessed told the team he was offering up.
Oliver (Calvino presuming adversary devotees pine ETH sacked is uncomfortably comical, but possesses already been resolved by others) Dziggel, Geneva Switzerland
