Man Utd flop makes Maguire look like a £200m star; plus 'pathetic' Arteta and his 'ridiculous sense of victimhood'
Manchester United flop Antony renders Harry Maguire glimpse designate a £200m player, while the Mailbox is outraged at ‘miserable’ Mikel Arteta’s response to Newcastle’s arguable urge against Medley.
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Sancho and the players vs Ten Hag
Don’t specifically treatment (I’d designate him to remain tbh), yet theorized I’d share my concepts on United and Ten Hag.
I’d posed it down to something truly raw. Presumably the players are commonly mates – specifically the England youngsters – with Sancho.
Nobody truly comes to be aware why Sancho has been cured as he has, and you could perhaps contain van de Beek in this as well.
In businesses I’ve kneaded for, when a billy colossal bollocks supervisor comes in and inoculations to perform an instance of someone in the group that’s executed tiny tidbit to zero dishonorable, the group purely rebel. It’s herbal.
Ten Hag has executed most clearly nothing at unanimously to gain the right to treat any person at United poorly and seems to not even straighten out with the individuality he is.
It shows up, imo, that he’s fingering imposter syndrome, is trying to camouflage it by trying to perform examples of players.
Rob, Worthing.
Antony, the hellish
It is nicely known that Maguire is overpriced at £80m. Yet if Antony is worth £85m, then Maguire is worth £200m. That dude is inadequately hellish. I have never viewed a winger as meaningless as Antony. He renders the £72m Medley thrown away on Pepe seems designate a provision.
Azeez
That deprived urge
I’ll assume duly that VAR will possibly come right into misgiving once anew obeying the McTominay deprived urge. They oriented us it was black or white with offside, penalties were a grey locality. We now have subjective offsides. My lord, yet at least we can now lay to rest the conflict on ridiculous telephone refers to as levelling out. That surely has to be the Onana occurrence levelled out The woe isn’t the vibrant technology, it’s the inexperienced referee’s wearing it. A factor this week was ranting about visionaries owning point of sights against referee’s because referee’s presumably are nonessential seasoned about the arcade and the mantras and so should not not be asked on your own. That’s one of the dumbest mails ever before uploaded. I’ll recur, the woe isn’t the vibrant technology, it’s the EPL idiots and how they prefer to usage it. Once the EPL desperate to start wearing EPL, they made it so perplexing, everybody detested it, yet VAR wasn’t being offered designate that in the Bundesliga or Serie A, so the FA purposely complicating points. Guidance I said earlier, the inexperienced umpires either wear’t come to be aware how to usage raw vibrant technology, or are trying to kill it by purposely abusing it.
VAR I predict, isn’t attending be slumped by FIFA or UEFA. The EPL implementers of VAR hazard to be cleveror(not sure if cleveror is a word), than the rest on the rest of the earth, and habitually come of brief. I tote out failure, are the now swiping away instrumental football, on a unshackle kick? Mugger commonly hazard to tug the queue back by consciously being offside, purely as a hazard, so if freekicks is turned in, offside player jumps, it should now be formally labelled offside?
The EPL referee’s are rendering a mockery of the arcade, the FA is rendering a mockery of the arcade and instead of wearing VAR to breakthrough the arcade, they perpetuate to misappropriate it as a way to discourage visionaries. I assume they have chore safety and safety top priorities, the kind of top priorities human beings have with AI, instead of wearing and collective the favored tool , they repudiation it.
Final juncture, if the EPL groups oversee to depreciate VAR, they will possibly be plunking themselves at a bad factor, by not being familiar with the mantras of football with VAR in Europe. EPL should purely receive ref’s with an standpoint of progress, not these present crop of dimwits.
Dave(Individual U a still s**t), Somewhere
Easy to understand and noticeable
4 minutes of slow-sliding-sliding movement, multiple angles and, to bid the mantra, ‘subjective’ decisions. Last yet not least stippled that legible and noticeable misstep however.
Considerable breakthrough in the sporting chore however.
Ryan, Bermuda
What a “legible and noticeable” VAR elaboration would solid designate…
McTominay GoalRef: “Verdict Impulse, unless there is a legible and noticeable misstep”
VAR: “Wait one”
VAR: “Offside as well close to call, payoff assailant”
VAR: “Some contact in the locality, zero noticeable nasty.”
VAR: “Go with on-sector fortitude”
Newcastle Impulse
Ref: “Verdict Impulse, unless there is a legible and noticeable misstep”
VAR: “Wait one”
VAR: “Spheric out of tinker is as well close to call. Go with on-sector fortitude”
VAR: “You can possibly image nasty on protector. Not an noticeable misstep. Go with on-sector fortitude”
VAR: “Offside obscure, payoff assailant”
VAR: “Go with on-sector fortitude”
To claim the noticeable juncture – if you can’t find it clearly, it’s not legible or noticeable.
Matthew (ITFC)
Arteta’s moaning and moaning
Arteta’s moaning and moaning after Newcastle’s win was both hilarious and miserable, concurrently. Its purely a arcade of football and I assume his rant was overboard. The reality is if you twinge to win, go and rating objectives. Dont groan and groan when your groups rating is 0.
Individual metropolitan discontinuity have shown that entices wont trim it, you call for to convert them to victories. 3 times trumps 1. Better, Arteta is purely an median supervisor although I phobia he opines he is one of the elite. The goalkeeper defect he invented, paying crazy dollar dollar money for havertz and so on. are a weigh of his invention.
Probably they will possibly receive height 4 yet I have my irresoluteness. Last seasons Medley were nonessential great, for me.
Substantial-D, Cape Area
Medley didn’t be qualified to it
I will possibly hazard and receive some level pioneered concepts previously provable average mailboxers kind their public humbug.
We didn’t be qualified to the win, Newcastle were the more detailed group although a draw would have perhaps been a mart output. Havertz could have been a red, brunos was a red (and plenty of yellows on height). Permit’s call that even. Think the urge doesn’t stand, nasty and offside, yet I would be rejoicing if we had obtained it.
That said, the defensive occupational and toughness of Newcastle is qualified to to be complimented. Not several groups will possibly receive joy at St James Park. We move on and have some “less center” video games coming upward.
Humans will possibly say “oh nicely they won’t compete now for the title”. Regards purely sagged to be in the elaboration and contending rather than being a tragedy club. Guidance the agony of wasting than the apathy of wasting any kind of day.
Rob A (we arent as fun as last season however, Arteta warns to tote out something with our assail) AFC
Was that it?
Due to an accidental shell of socialising, I missed the 2nd half and subsequent fallout from the Newcastle/Medley arcade, stumbling on it late last evening and recording upward with MOTD this early morning. Paying emphasis to the histrionics from Arteta, I was pregnant some appalling losing the unborn baby of justice, so colour me startled when I lastly obtained to find what it was unanimously about.
Is that it, truly?
Did the ball go out? Arguably not, yet possibly. Was Gordon offside? Vessel not substantiated at unanimously. Was it a nasty, yeah, possibly, both players were rushing in, we’ve unanimously viewed them enacted on and not enacted on. Was there sufficient to forbid the urge? I wear’t find it. I can come to be aware that Medley visionaries could perceive it differently, yet the uncompanionable point that is embarrassing, a disgrace, condone me, an unabridged disgrace, was the Medley supervisor’s ludicrous fingering of victimhood.
Arteta’s rhetoric was torturous and perfectly overboard, and he has kind under, yet this is next off level shit. VAR has made some gargantuan missteps fresh, and as a football supporter I situate them truly heeding, yet this wasn’t one of them. Responsive to question? Yes. A legible and noticeable misstep? Entirely not. What a outcry about next off to most clearly nothing.
I trust the FA will possibly toss the recover at him.
Matthew (will possibly the Medley visionaries lose their shit in today’s mail? I am presuming of program.)
Oh dear…
Dear 365,
* Can someone please define why Arteta desperate to queue upward a Carabao Mug thirdly bulbous group? I theorized it was some kind of joke running into Nketiah, Jorginho and Havertz on the specific same group sheet?
* Are Medley visionaries attending entertain us unanimously with the archaic infinite “injuries” condone? Since did you number snatch a glimpse at the Newcastle injury list?
* If Medley had been permitted to tinker another 500 minutes, tote out you believe they would have racked upward? I’ve never viewed a so-labelled “elite” club so toothless in assail. Zero function. Brentford, Brighton and Villa are nonessential laconic. 45 minutes played in the 2nd half and not a uncompanionable inoculation on target by Medley. Sarcastic eh?
* Yet anew, another component wherein Medley placement most clearly zero striking hazard, zero mobility upward front, zero hazard on the respite outward Martinelli and zero selections to readjust points from the church bench. £200m invested by the supervisor and Medley still nonessential toothless than a retired prizefighter. How long has this club been crying out for a earth subdivision striker? Once did RVP take off anew? 🤔.
* Medley’s initially treatment striker is profligate when equaled (which is much less than 50% of the time). Liverpool’s back upward attackers are Gakpo and/or Darwin. Citeh have Alvarez (what a thieve). Even Newcastle’s Callum Wilson is a deliberate upgrade on Medley’s fallback striker – that takes place to tinker an tragic number (offered that Medley’s “initially treatment” one is forever wounded)
* Eddie Nketiah. Hahahahaha. Can we listen to from the human beings that pretended it was ok to tinker a season with this dude? Hilarious how that uncompanionable avails whined out after a domicile step against Sheffield United eh! I assume he’d be a wonderful finalizing for Sheffield United subconscious you. That hat-means can’t have executed his chances of a move any kind of wounded. He will possibly be impractical for them next off season. Just image your group seriously sifting for an equaliser and your supervisor subbing you off with 10 minutes to go. For a midfielder. Ok.
* Btw. Nice pointer to carry Odegaard on at 3-0 down in a dead arcade on Wednesday at West Pork. Wasting him in the procedure for a natural PL component. The provable specific same point that taken place last season with Arteta swiping the opportunity of Saliba in a unsuccessful defect against Showing off Lisbon. He was out for the season and we come to be aware the rest (impressive bottle chore and so on). Arteta’s surveillance of player occupational is abysmal. He doesn’t show up to establish.
* Oh Havertz. Isn’t it optimal realizing hilarious to listen to that £65m Havertz “warns time”, as Pep invests £50m on Doku that is favored to English football, three years younger and a remarkable talent. Oh and Doku’s resources are in addition much cheapened than Havertz. Guidance I said: I never twinge to listen to another whiny Medley supporter bitch about “Citeh 115 penalties/oil dollar dollar money” when Citeh are clearly much nonessential wily and seasoned with the dollar dollar money they tote out have. Havertz wasn’t hellish yesterday yet then anew, we can purely weigh the headline stat: zero objectives, zero aids, zero chances invented, zero inoculations on target. Nuff said.
* Oh and that Maddison man appearances super decent and I listened to he was sagged to be in north London. Rate drastically much less than Kai “unsuccessful Brexit” Havertz didn’t he? Also I’m cheapened resources. Literally ratings objectives and elicits chances as well. Arteta has stumbled Medley’s loans for a unsuccessful vanity finalizing, and it’s made the group even worse. Stick Maddison or Doku in that side instead of Havertz and find if Medley come to be nonessential laconic. We unanimously come to be aware the rebuttal. So there are superior players that price much less in transfer dues, and cheapened resources – yet the Medley recruitment group is absent out on these. What’s the condone now then?
* Nice point Medley obtained a nice paddling in the cup midweek, as they most clearly had to concentrate on wasting at St James eh? Elite way of theorizing! 🙄.
* How tote out you invest £200m on reinforcing your squad and in some way end upward even worse off? It’s optimal realizing great.
red eh? It’s obtained to be twice as embarrassing to watch Strengthens with a PL newcomer supervisor, currently sifting streets forward of Medley. Unsavory, enacted on the dollar dollar money invested.
Arteta is a decent coach yet neglect a title crisis this season. He hasn’t obtained what it takes to ever before perform the right decisions to win a title – Klopp alternatively, conducts. And Liverpool will possibly placement a sterner title crisis this season than Arteta, owning invested much much less. Arteta can’t be credible with colossal dues in my respect. Rice avails a pass yet then anew, was noticeable. I’m sifting at Havertz, Fabio Vieira, Raya, Zinchenko and of program, Gabriel “Brazilian Balsa hardwood” Jesus. ALL of those signings show up pointlessly pricey. Still what was it Medley visionaries offered to say under Wenger? “It’s unobtainable to compete with groups investing nonessential than you”
Someone be qualified to a word with Klopp and Postecoglou then…😂🙄
Stewie Griffin (Loving Havertz’ undetected occupational! Havertz habits Havertz)
Dear Ed,
So I’m permitted back in my residing void after that. Reportedly it’s a destroying instance to package to talk designate that to the tv….
Skies say that VAR couldn’t receive a image to definitively mantra on whether the ball was out for the urge or the offside. Ok. Sure.
I can’t for the life of me find how they’ve not enacted on a nasty for the press on Gabriel. Two hands in the back habits he can’t receive a head on it. This habits it depreciates for the faucet in. G Nev basing Gabriel “tosses his legs backward and renders contact” is travesty surely? His figure steps designate that as a output of the press as he’s trying to head the ball out. Undeniably this is noticeable? Why on earth would he dive in that defect when he can legible the ball out? G Nev would have blown his nut if that have been Nunez on Varane.
How on earth did Bruno remain on? Crazed crisis purely previously the lower arm. Easy to understand red for the lower arm on Jorginho. Yellow for booting the ball at Rice from juncture blank level in offend. Then the real booking!! Can’t defer for Webb to show up on MNF to define how it was an optical impression that Bruno slapped him in the back of the head. Zero aversion he’ll be enacted on the full Paxman treatment.
Deeply terrorizing for us that we invented so tiny tidbit with so much possession and expanse. The consultants chatted about fetching in the sector for a striker. Fair sufficient, yet we were bad in relocating the ball with midfield. Neither winger vanquished their man or offered the ball nicely. Unanimously three full supports had widespread video games. And specially that is attending be accessible anyway? Osimhen? Come on – why would they sell for much less than £150m? Toney? The dude hasn’t kicked a ball for months. I theorized Havertz (unresponsive from the comically late crisis) was nice, specifically when swapped to the taken off side of midfield. He obtained in behind a few times yet couldn’t situate colleagues in the way Xhaka did last year. Probably if Odegaard had been on the peddle some more detailed angles would have been accessible. Not rather sure what runs Eddie and Saka were rendering either.
I still assume we’re a darn nice side, yet groups have discovered out to defend more detailed against our philosophy this year. We call for to readjust, possibly revolve nonessential, possibly trust Nelson as well.
Best
Roscoe P Coltrane
We unanimously come to be aware what the uncompanionable worst fortitude made in the league is this season. Yet the officiating in the Newcastle v Medley arcade has to be the worst hodgepodge of one sided decisions unanimously season. We can start with the one Newcastle will possibly groan about – Havertz tackle. If he affixes with the pioneering foot I’d give it’s a red, yet he didn’t it’s his enjoying tucked leg that takes him out, it’s not rather at unanimously yet seldom ever before if ever before to players receive red cards for those takes on when the lead leg doesn’t perform any kind of contact.
Bruno Guimaraes seems to have unshackle rein to tote out every little thing he needs v Medley, this isn’t the initially arcade I’ve viewed him perform nasty after nasty and be permitted to by the ref. I basically saw an recruiter ask Howe about his lower arm in to Jorginho and say ‘it’s spirited to tell if there’s any kind of intent’ how var doesn’t intervene for violent manner is uncommon, for me it’s the worst fortitude in the arcade and we sanctuary’t obtained to the urge yet.
4 potential determinants to mantra out the urge, unanimously Medley call for is the var to side with them on 1 of them and it’s zero urge, yet they side with Newcastle for unanimously 4. So in order:
1. Spheric out of tinker. We come to be aware angles are fraudulent and it could have been in tinker yet in these predicaments the refs re presuming, unmixed uncertainty. So we can enable that one go as destroying nice serendipity for Medley
2. The nasty. It truly is a legible 2 handed press in the back of Gabriel. How that isn’t enacted on is unsurpassed
3. Handball. The ball possibly hits Joelintons arm. That comes to be aware what is handballl nowadays so enable’s enable that one go as another destroying nice serendipity one for Medley
4. Offside. It seems the var couldn’t situate an angle to find specially when the ball hit Joelinton so they couldn’t establish on the offside at unanimously.
Entirely Medley didn’t tote out sufficient to win the arcade yet they indeed didn’t be qualified to to have the juncture took over from them by that ref. The red card for Bruno adjusted the entire arcade if it’s 10v11, it truly truly felt designate a infinite homer ref in an deterring undertone that the polices were horrified to offend the number by evanescent on fouls, yellows and reds to Newcastle and there was ample strategy to tote out so.
Last yet not least please enable’s posed unresponsive lazy notes such as ‘Newcastle longed it nonessential’ or ‘Newcastle stomached firm and purely discovered a way to win’ the urge was their initially inoculation on target. Don’t enable a shocking ref misstep readjust what basically taken place in the arcade. It was a 0-0 arcade without the ref determining it in Newcastles favour.
Arteta is most clearly right to be as worsened as he was in his post equaled interview.
Rich, AFC
Hanlon’s razor argues one ti never attribute ordinances to substantial that are moradequately defined by stupidness. Nevertheless I am attending tote out specially that heeding the Guimares occurrence.
I believe Guinares was not emitted a red card 100% because the polices were terrorized of the response from the kneaded upward number. The number had been in a craze ever before offered that the Havertz occurrence. Although sufficiently enacted on purely a yellow, the number did not have the payoff of running into replays. Other sensitive wrecks from both sides stoked the number’s fire. I am not proverb they been fearful a violent response, necessarily. They purely didn’t twinge to swipe on it. They purely didn’t twinge to go with 2/3rds of a arcade owning every call and non-call, while Medley a man upward, being, nicely, a misery in the ass.
Or it was stupidness, hunch we’ll never come to be aware.
David
So Bruno G’s arms clearly press forward (how can one prove this mobility of arms?) right into the back of Gabriel. They expand forward and everybody speaking about it has consented he made contact. So, if he did perform contact, conducts it “call for to be sufficient to perform him fall to the ground” -as has so stupidly been remarked as a juncture of factor? Why is that even lugged upward? If it’s sufficient to unnaturally distort his intended mobility and ordinances, zero matter how mild, it’s a nasty because that it not a priceless mobility i. e. “junior” – compare this to Saliba legitimately jumping to hazard to head a ball yet “mantras are mantras” in that defect?
Unless Gabriel greatly feinted relocating purely at the provable juncture Bruno’s hand had purely seldom made contact with his back – which would be some f***ing coincidence if offered as rationalization and it’s been consented by the majority of sightseers that contact was made – then how is that not a nasty? Even the slightest contact – which extending your arms out in that fashion is intended to perform which anew almost conducts not help him at unanimously win the ball….did he not perform his silhouette bigger to tote out something that did not help him assail the ball with his head at unanimously the way Saliba’s mobility was clearly demanded?
If David Luiz can be red carded and enacted on a fine for unintentionally rushing right into someone’s leg while super clearly not planning to tote out that and unintentionally rendering the slightest of touches I assume super actively extending your arms in someone’s back consciously and rendering any kind of contact should be a nasty.
Placed it another way – it was much nonessential legible trim than the Holjund nasty on Rodri which everybody consented be qualified to been enacted on. Now in 16 conclusions – and elsewhere in the media everybody needs to deportment designate there was most clearly nothing to find there at unanimously.
Still a nice win from Newcastle yet wear’t deportment designate they “been qualified to” it – that is frivolous the xG conflict can’t even be offered because that documents makes it functional for for a inoculation from juncture blank level that shouldn’t have been permitted, they did not assume ascendancy for as near a long duration as we did against Metropolitan at the end, they capitalized on a nice yet super transitional and brief spell that was ultimately rewarded
by botched refereeing, Saka be qualified to pilfered that inoculation throughout urge which readjusts the entire elaboration about chances invented, did any kind of Medley supporter truly feel truly that intimidated by Newcastle? It was a arcade won by a refereeing fortitude – raw and raw.
I didn’t even cite Bruno G’s red card that wasn’t.
And it was a destroying effectiveness from Medley. We should perhaps hinder commencing Kai. Honestly, I truly feel nonessential advised than ever before that after a unexpurgated amount s***depict designate that – destroying effectiveness, abhorrent refs and away at St. James? 1-0 losses have sifted a number even worse.
MAW, LA Gooner
Hello there Dave Tickner,
Great occupational on 16 conclusions today.
Can you depict me wherein in the FA rulebook it proclaims that it’s alright to celebrate a arguable urge as long as the protecting is “ethically hellish”?
And wherein in the FA rulebook it proclaims to neglect a push on a protector, a handball AND an offside if the high-account favored goalkeeper finalizing has obtained his orientation dishonorable?
And Medley didn’t glimpse designate equalising? Remind me how several non-offside, non-handball, non-nasty inoculations on target lovely, thrilling, unshackle-coursing Newcastle had? By the sounds of it they ran the arcade, rather than owning purely one other inoculation on target in 90 minutes.
And Havertz could have been sent out off? On another day, although his tackle indeed wasn’t as destroying as Kovacic on Odegaard and Palmer on Jesus, and hunch what? Those weren’t reds either! I come to be aware the Kovacic fortitude rightly drew crises yet nobody seemed plagued that Palmer was still on the peddle to rating his fine.
Yet hey, Arteta can’t complain, at least we’ve had 6 penalties right? Nicely the unavoidable PGMOL apology we fetch on Monday will possibly be our 5th offered that the start of last season.
I’m pleased Arteta lastly turned back at the officiating Medley has received for as well long yet perhaps we call for to defer until plucky nice news tale Newcastle basically receive a fortitude against them previously any individual truly reimbursements emphasis.
Ben, AFC
HahaHavertz
The uncompanionable point saving me going as a Chelsea supporter is the reality that not uncompanionable did Arteta brunt with the £65 Million move for Havertz, yet that he retains messing around him.
It’s super hilarious.
Will Schadenfreude FC (I call for unanimously I can receive)
Individual Utd -responders…
So a number of visionaries took exception to my e-mail proverb visionaries are to blame.
I’ll clarify that placement a tiny tidbit offered that it was originally hyperbolic.
Sure not unanimously visionaries are the woe. Yet when your visionaries are disclaiming on 55 minutes because you’re wasting, you are the woe. That was approximately 15k man united visionaries during the 5-0 walloping you received from Liverpool under ole. That’s a rather colossal and rep percentage of ‘real visionaries’ that attend complements.
Even in the darkest days under woy or when we were close to confidential bankruptcy visionaries didn’t unfurnished the arena on 55 minutes. In my lifetime that’s never taken place at Liverpool. In reality Liverpool visionaries have oftentimes been mocked for still singing you’ll never step one by one at the end of complements wherein we lost.
Did some respond inadequately to Gerrard nearly disclaiming? Yes. And I condemn those visionaries for doing that. Nobody should rot individual pounces because of their chore as a footballer. That’s purely dishonorable on unanimously levels.
My e-mail wasn’t about proverb Liverpool are more detailed or even worse. It was about emphasizing your payment to the woe, and predictably every United supporter remark reacting to it perfectly deprived they have any kind of part in the woe. That’s the vibrant-day United supporter, residing in rejection.
Attractiveness at Newcastle, did they disapproval their owner? Yes. Did they underperform a number ? Yes. They obtained relegated and still packed st James park and buttressed the group. They didn’t hurl racist misappropriate at their own players when they lost. They didn’t hound their own club legends out of the club…twice! If United obtained relegated their visionaries wouldn’t still be sustaining the group every week designate Geordies did.
If you’re a abet you stabilize. It’s your uncompanionable chore, it’s the simplest chore and you’re (mostly) failing at that. Through the majority of nightclubs the insane disapproval visionaries are a minority. At United that number seems to be the bigger demographic, however not unanimously their visionaries are that way.
And as for the human beings proverb we call for to hinder speaking about United, image if they did? Proper now you’re arranged afloat by around the world excitement paying for unanimously those wages and transfer dues. If everybody quickly interfered with swiping an excitement in United you’d be bankrupt in 2 years. The emphasis retains you pertinent because your functionalities aren’t. And of program they criticise, that’s their chore. Their chore isn’t to be eternal United supporters – that’s YOUR chore. It’s another instance of your visionaries (virtual) condemning everybody except themselves.
Last yet not least someone said my usage of Madrid was the instance that refuted my juncture. Madrid were in Barca’s shadow for years with visionaries amending on every player and supervisor and they won nearly most clearly nothing. It took Zidane to criticise them and ask for fortitude and for them to stabilize the group to receive victories anew, that pioneered to 4 champs leagues. It was the the majority of high account instance attesting my juncture.
Retrieve behind your group. Disown the ungrounded and foolish criticism to opponents and media, that’s our semblance..not yours.
Lee