Person Utd could be 2nd on the checklist of numerous successful English clubs but the boys are not attracted, while Person Metropolis posed discomfort on Arsenal.
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England’s numerous successful clubs
Having listened to a few football points of late on the radio (I stay abroad) re England’s best clubs, Person Utd still relevant, London’s best bar etc, I had some time on my hands the miscellaneous other day to converge a factual checklist. Nicely, trophy intelligent of course.
5 variables for European Cup/CL, 4 for the league, 3 for FA Cup and also unanimously miscellaneous other European prizes, 2 for League Cup and also 1 for European Disturbingly Cup/Planet Club (sorry Arteta, undoubtedly no variables for charity or urbane shields).
I usual, I guess we unanimously realize the apex 3 but it’s pretty intriguing to go to the Top 15 :
Liverpool 168
Person Utd 158
Arsenal 104
Person Metropolis 87
Chelsea 83
Aston Villa 65
Everton 54
Tottenham 49
Newcastle 39
Blackburn 32
Sunderland 30
Nottingham Timberland 29
Wolves 28
Sheff Wed 27
Leeds 23
2 or three a habitation more prohibitive periods for Person Metropolis and also they’ll go 3rd.
Oh and also fanatics intelligent. Having lived abroad for the safest portion of a decade, I think Person Utd fanatics would be rather troubled to go to how much young/teenage fanatics in SEAsia group Metropolis, Chelsea, Barcelona, Liverpool and also Real Madrid over Utd.
Then over again, any guy under the era of 20 have lone licensed Person Utd to be trousers.
Thanks,
Adam Halliday, Saigon, Villa Supporter (6th!)
Why transfer dues are undue
A habitation asserted this week around whether Wirtz is worth the £100m Liverpool are paying. The rebuttal is undoubtedly no one realises yet.
Ever because Sky designed skybet and also started shrieking transfer drama correct into our brains to reinforce betting action I feel pick audiences have thrown away the aptitude to talk around the plight intelligently. Presently audiences have to win or lose at sends.
Whatever silver is invested is considerably undue to fanatics. That’s a beancounter plight. What’s relevant to fanatics is :
1. Executes this player bring a skillset that we currently scarcity?
2. Is he much more discussed than what we currently have?
If the rebuttal is of course after that he’s worth it, regardless of price. If Rayan Cherki ends up doing capacities on the side of the pitch and also wasting the bulbous as shortly as Metropolis are 1-0 (pick he generally did at Lyon) he will feel pick thrown away silver even though it was a tiny expense. If Wirtz ratings the victor in a Winners League last it will feel worth it. That’s purely how it jobs.
If the player implements the job they were lugged in to execute he’s worth it. Allison for instance was lugged in for an whopping price because we hadn’t had a caretaker who can guard versus one on ones and also establishment the bulbous nicely in a decade, Allison did that and also much a habitation more so undoubtedly no one ever before talks around the price.
If a player doesn’t execute the job they’re lugged in to execute, they’re not worth it. Liverpool wear’t have too numerous of these anymore but Nunez and also Naby Keita are 2 that flexibleness to mind who weren’t worth it.
And it considerably doesn’t plight what the price was. If Nunez price £1 he still didn’t rating enough objectives so he would still not be worth it. If Van Dijk price £200m he still pioneered the team to numerous prizes and also did unanimously the points we vital him to execute, so he would still be worth it.
Is any type of Unified follower in reality gonna tell me that if Antony price a quid they think he would be a thorough gamers who brings something to the team it doesn’t currently have? If Jack Grealish didn’t price £100m would he be a much more discussed player for Metropolis?
Lee
Declan Rice: Misestimated
I pined to share some opinions on Declan Rice. Initially of unanimously, he shows up pick a nice guy, and also a footballer you’d surely want to have a pint doning. Singularly he isn’t thorough enough to tinker DM for England or Arsenal.
Some Arsenal fanatics have this scary obsession doning contrasting their gamers doning Rodri. I was signaled Partey was much more discussed than Rodri after the former authorized up doning Arsenal in 2020 (he wasn’t). And after that they reoccured the secret as shortly as announcing that Rice is much more discussed than Rodri after Arsenal authorized him in 2023. Partey was now, undoubtedly no much longer deserving of comparison oddly. And I wager that they will say that Zubimendi is much more discussed than Rodri if he manifestations for Arsenal as intended.
The weirdest particle is that Arteta doesn’t tinker Rice at DM. He messed around Partey or Jorginho instead, and also owns ordered Zubimendi, as he realises Rice isn’t thorough enough to tinker DM at a team that wishes to compete at the highest level. So it renders undoubtedly no sensation to comparison Rice to Rodri, as shortly as Rice is a box to box digit 8 now, that praises his physical potencies.
If we presume that Tuchel will end up messing around 4-3-3, as numerous of the English gamers he can pick tinker in that formation I position it scary how high Rice is rated in the England Ladder.
As shortly as Rice messed around DM for England at the Euros, the ago 4 expired up messing around the bulbous disclaimed and also correct in a horseshoe kind as Rice wasn’t reflecting for the bulbous. He pretty much guy marked the resistance and also took himself out of the arcade. He wasn’t on the fifty percent rotate, he didn’t deliver intake correct into place speedy enough as shortly as pushed and also his first touch isn’t thorough enough. As a upshot England couldn’t adjust from defence to midfield as shortly as pushed. What England requirement is a proper DM for that obligation. We tried Angel Gomes and also I still have hopes for Wharton, but we requirement somebody who can tinker that obligation sufficiently.
Then England requirement 2 miscellaneous other midfielders and also this is in which Rice must tinker. Yet if everyone was suit and also on kind, and also doning a proper DM, would Rice be in the team in drifter of unanimously but one of Bellingham, Palmer, Foden, Eze, Rogers or Mainoo? Bellingham, as shortly as not being stroppy, bargains the physicality that Rice implements, so there must be a place for a a habitation more imaginative player next off to him. Personally, I’d determine Palmer, so I’m troubled that Rice is digit 3 on the ladder.
TL;DR – Rice shows up pick a thorough guy, but isn’t a DM, shouldn’t be contrasted to Rodri, and also shouldn’t tinker DM for England, and also owns a battle IMO to preserve his England place in a midfield 3 if everyone is suit.
Andy D. Manchester. MCFC
Just attractiveness at their confronts…
All this talk around which prizes are looked at ‘worth’ sweet and also which aren’t is utterly undue. All you have to execute is attractiveness at the gamers as shortly as they win every little thing trophy it is and also that will tell you whether it’s ‘worth’ it or not. FA Cup, Coca-Cola Cup, Charity Guard, Disturbingly Cup…..the gamers that win those prizes quite clearly think they are worth sweet.
As shortly as was the last time a bar captain risen the FA Cup doning a bored adage on his face? Who was the last player to purely stroll off correct into the spice and also forego lifting the Carabao? Bear in mind last period’s Area Guard as shortly as unanimously the fanatics disclaimed before the trophy commemorates? Unquestionably no, neither me strangely.
The gamers care around the prizes they win. They could want to win some a habitation more than others but they want to win every little thing they are in. To the gamers, every trophy matters and also every trophy counts. As shortly as the gamers guard versus compassionate around a trophy, after that we can dismiss it. Until after that, sweet an actual trophy – every little thing it could be – is a GOOD THING.
Grateful I could posed an end to this undue and also solitarily subjective debate.
Clive, LFC (still laughing childishly at F365 terming Utd vs Spurs as ‘handset object fulfills stoppable effect’)
Having undoubtedly no lorry doning Johnny
Ratty soppy bollocks & traveler in-residence blood loss heart liberal, Johnny Nic owns missed out on the time over again. Unquestionably no one’s astounded that Trent can speak Spanish (it is after unanimously one of the less complicated languages to uncover – not if you’re Gareth Bundle tho). Unquestionably no Johnny, what audiences were astounded by was it was so pristine & without imperfections that it clearly opined that he’d been locating out it for quite some time – let’s say a habitation much longer than as shortly as Real first come close to Liverpool ago in January. Which methodologies his verdict to join Real owns probably been pilfered long time previously & he could’ve even met privately doning audiences from the bar to wrap up a potential tramp, whilst tightly a waned Liverpool player.
I think that will be the real twist for Liverpool fanatics – it’s not pick he’s had his head swivelled in January by Real’s inquisitiveness but that he’s probably been termed out by audiences at Madrid plenty of years previously & he’s purely enabled his dedication to sprinted down.
Upwards the Wahs.
Peter Rock
…Johnny Nic invested around 8 paragraphs gaining the time that it shouldn’t be shocking a footballer speaking a international language.
He is almost viewing what’s shocking around it. Check out it isn’t shocking as shortly as a football player can speak a 2nd language. Nobody is troubled at that.
Singularly it is shocking viewing and also English or American guy speaking a 2nd language because that in reality isn’t so recurring. I’d go a minuscule further and also say that in Trent’s sheath the consternation stems from him being Scouse.
Those of us whose first language is English frequently tend to be a minuscule particle….qualified and also tote an expectation that audiences will speak English because it’s the sift of globally language. I’ve taken a excursion numerous of the universes and also I’ve English, Americans and also australians unanimously in international countries purely gaining capitalize of English doning minuscule to undoubtedly no exertion at the urbane language. This isn’t purely my point of vista either, the natives I speak to on my treks are always troubled as shortly as I can speak their language (Portuguese, Spanish, Filipino and also Vietnamese in sheath you’re inquisitive) and also they’re troubled because English speaking audiences wear’t generally deliver the exertion.
And I confess in my teenage campus years I did not trouble doning french because had the naive point of vista that “almost everywhere speaks English anyhow.”
I currently reside in Brasil and also urbane confronts light up as shortly as they uncover I’m not a brasileiro and also speak it nicely. In reality the lone enclosures in which audiences wear’t show up to appreciate that exertion is Paris (in which they have actual antipathy if you exertion french and also would rather you intake English) and also in the UK in which audiences swat somebody exertion at English aside pick it’s a humble thing.
So probably Johnny , the component everyone is troubled at Trents Spanish is because the English aren’t licensed for their etymological capacities…Joey Barton speaking french is how it generally turns out.
Lee
The X Component
To Hartley MCFC and also his XI.
Chapeau.
H
