'Boring' Arsenal must 'cut their losses' on failing forward while 'average' Saliba is exposed
Medley are ‘so plain and safe’, which is why ‘median’ William Saliba appearances so nice. Yet there is zero conserving the baloney Gabriel Martinelli.
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0-0 to the Medley
Brian Moore. ITV Showing off activity. Isn’t it? Mythical five at the ago. Adams earns a last ditch tackle. Oh – nice penalty preserve from Seaman.
Anyone else render utilise Medley circa 1994 feelings last evening? Loving this salient/ratty Medley.
Arsene never obtained it.
Graham Simons, Gooner, Norf London
Decent upshot, hellish gallery
I’m visiting go out on a arm or leg here. Your visiting render utilise atleast 1, potentially 2 emails proverb Medley are s*** for lone recovering a draw away at last periods Europa League and invincible stoppers who overcome Liverpool 0-3 at Anfield. Humans have wierd expectations…
I’m just depressing I had to watch that gallery, via any type of blessing we can render utilise a snippet added striking fluidness over the next couple of weeks without Odegaard and Partey uncovers his necessity by Sunday… oh and Martinelli shoots like me, and I’m s***. Purely unwind down and breath cohort.
Rob A (hardest week of the period, 4 times so far isn’t also derogatory) AFC
There’s a couple of points to remark on. I tracked with one voice the English groups in the champions league and however lone in fact rental residential glanced nice.
While we (Liverpool) won we weren’t preposterous in fact and just took payback of mistrust package hunk conserving. It was a judiciously also gallery, objectives aside.
Municipal gap and medley were DIRE. How can 2 crew fighting for so most times scoring so most objectives last year be so plain and safe to watch? It constantly without words me how saliba appearances median for France but appearances nice for medley and currently I know, for France he’s not defending a ago 8 with one voice the time. He’s still a nice player don’t render utilise me wrong but would he be nice in groups that dabble a snippet added adventurously? I’m not urged.
I reckon medley should trim their losses on martinelli, aside from being quickly he bargains altogether nothing. It’s ironic they accepted sterling since he also bargains altogether nothing other than being quickly. Purely ask urban and Chelsea. Why doesn’t trossard dabble added? Certainly I don’t watch him as sporadically as medley fanatics but he appears the most good of your escaped wingers and should in fact prelude.
That kit? Wtf is it? At initially I reckoned they neglected to confiscate their coaching bibs off. Sets don’t in fact apprehension at the run out of the day but that’s one of the worst I’ve witnessed in a long time.
Beefy times to inzaghi for pretty a digit controling the gallery versus the ‘economic’ juggernaut that is urban, the truly same to gasperini. 2 groups via packages of fanatics who’ve snatched on out altogether nothing but boast with one voice over social media for weeks, and it’s nice to estimation them humbled ever so mildly. In days gone by y’with one voice claim it we obtained our humbling versus woodland.
On the Atalanta gallery I didn’t literally reckon it been entitled to been a pen. There were surely 2 fouls, one outdoor and one inside but for some part the ref desperate the one outdoor the box didnt apprehension. It been entitled to been a emission kick, least Raya administered it moot.
Municipal gap have to be hoping to render utilise their salient safest pal Michael Oliver for their champs league games, man won them around 9 times last year as nicely as snatching a couple of off both medley and Liverpool via significantly dubious determinations.
Finally, I don’t subconscious the salient layout. We render utilise much better games (in theory) previously. I would apt like to estimation it correction to being a knock out tournament anew however.
Lee
Formatting wrangles
On the salient CL group stage layout, currently that the initially spheric has been played, a couple of times to referral:
Initially, this is not in fact a “Swiss Model” – don’t blame the Swiss for this. I know this is not on the leading edge of most human being’s psyches, but I truly feel like if this goes unchallenged, the misunderstanding will stick. The lone point Swiss around it is that UEFA arguably came upward via it while being literally posture in Switzerland. So it’s kind of like the Geneva Convention: not in fact around Switzerland, despite what they termed it.
While we are on the share, I took the time to guesstimate what the second spheric of fixtures would attractiveness like, if UEFA had literally included a real “Swiss Model”, waiting till the initially spheric of upshots before pairing groups upward:
Celtic vs Bayern
Leverkusen vs Trip residence
Dortmund vs Prague
Liverpool vs Real Madrid
Showing off vs Juventus
Benfica vs Monaco
Brest vs Atletico
Inter vs PSG
Medley vs Bologna
Municipal gap vs Atalanta
Shakhtar vs RB Leipzig
Barcelona vs Sturm Graz
Girona vs Red Star
PSV vs Stuttgart
Milan vs Lille
Bratislava vs Brugge
RB Salzburg vs Young Boys
Dinamo Zagreb vs Feyenoord
To be bazaar, it literally would lead to an absolute variety of intriguing grants, both in this spheric and the rest of the group stage. Of training course, it will never happen, for logistical elements. Yet not constantly since the clubs and fanatics couldn’t confiscate treatment of it; this would be a acute obstacle, but not strictly impossible. Yet UEFA treatment around their truly own logistics as a digit as those of the virtuosi athletes, practitioners and fanatics. So instead, we’ve obtained what we’ve obtained, and I don’t reckon the reserving/matchmaking side will be equalized.
Which leads me to my second part: I don’t reckon this layout is visiting be as plain as I had initially been fearful, if they tweak it a snippet for future incarnations. The group phases were pretty plain to embark via, so it’s not like we are sprinting the obstacle of a digit anyway. The acute inquiry appears to be that there is zero discrepance coating between 1st and 8th, and zero discrepance coating any type of place between nine and 24th. What I would suggest is something like:
* Hole the positions in 6 groups of 4 groups, rather than 3 groups of 8 groups (1st-4th, 5th-8th, nine-12th, 13th-16th, 17th-20th, 21st-24th).
* In the Round of 32, render it nine-12th vs. 21st-24th and 13th-16th vs 17th-20th.
* In the Round of 16, position a approach to render the draw marginally added conducive for the groups that finished 1st-4th than 5th-8th. Obscure how.
* In the QF and SF, establish on the crew that finished greater in the group stage an payback in specification of dabbling residence/away initially.
We’ll estimation what the best upshot is on the feature of the latter phases of the hit stage. I am presuming it won’t correction anything at with one voice, so at some point we are debating “which layout would be the least-plain CL group stage”, and regreting that they have launched a Round of 32 that did not previously exist.
Last quickly part: this is not a ‘stealth European Aggravatingly League’. Nothing is ‘like a Aggravatingly League’ unless it replaces national leagues. Let’s not exaggerate.
Oliver Dziggel, Geneva Switzerland
The CL has f**ked approximately and come to be like the prelude of a Earth Mug or Euros. Wherein the initially stage of dabble scarcely distress. It currently truly feels like a pre-tournament to watch before the actual tournament preludes. It never thumbed like that previously inspite of possessing groups due to there being some jeopardy. I frankly reckoned it wouldn’t apprehension, added games for us fanatics, but after that fact struck.
In my timezone CL football preludes at 12:30 or 1:30 (counting on the daytime economic savings) and expires at 2:30 or 3:30am on kneading weekdays. And also during the CL, I traditionally catch the 2-3 safest grants every week zero apprehension how shit the next day goes. Yet this time approximately, it seriously thumbed like international friendlies were on. I couldnt be interfered at with one voice. A absence of significantly rewarding grants (considerable crew v considerable crew), a absence of belongings zero apprehension what, tooo most grants and a group stage that is toooo intricate to preserve in mind at the reminder of your fingers. I frankly dont know who Aston Trip residence or Municipal gap will dabble, how the league is desperate, what is the logic behind the match ups etc. I have read it with one voice, but I frankly couldnt claim if someone checked. It’s just also odd and truly feels tooo plain for a league/tournament that was functioning effortlessly. On top of that, zero away objectives, so it seriously doesn’t apprehension who carries out what. Purely whack the miniscule groups and you can afford a couple of creep ups and be secure.
The nice description is, this will guidances via my sleep and traditionally wellness. Will prelude trailing as speedily as the knockouts prelude. And also safest of blessing to Aston Trip residence, hope they win the point.
Cheers
A
The salient Winners League layout is in fact a snoozefest. The group stage is long and attracted out, lone for 8 of the 32 groups to be fetched rid of at the run out. Yet I do diagnose the logic behind trying to invent a Premier League-theme layout, where with one voice the top groups compete versus each dissimilar other and every match counts.
The inquiry is, UEFA has snatched on out this in reverse. Instead of dragging out the group stage, why not prelude via the hit phases? Start via a Round of 32, obeyed by a Round of 16, and after that a Last 8, each desperate by one-off grants. The final 8 groups would after that breakthrough to the Winners League relevant, where they compete in a spheric-robin layout. Each crew would dabble every dissimilar other crew, and the nightclub via the most times at the run out of this league would be crowned the Winners League winner.
In this approach, the tournament preludes via high-threats hit games, conserving fanatics involved from the significantly onset, and the final stage makes certain that every match between the top 8 groups distress.
Adeel
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Bargain quest
My payment to Chris’s bargain quest reprieves the laws a snippet, but if Boubs Kamara had been suit enough to come on for Onana on Tuesday, Trip residence would have been dabbling Winners League football via a midfield 4 that price £2.7m in total.
Retrieving Konsa, Rogers, Martinez and Watkins for less than an Antony is respectable establishment as nicely also subconscious.
Neil Raines (Sandro Lauper was fouling us with one voice via the evening)