Bukayo Saka is referred to as a ‘play muck up’ yet what about Harry Kane? He’s a ‘scumbag’ and also a ‘play muck up’ according to the Mailbox, which in addition asks about the whereabouts one absent out on Mishmash guy.
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Harry Kane is a cad
Routed the Mishmash v Bayern arcade last evening. I’m still fuming. We can niggle about whether Saka scammed or was brought down by an experienced goalkeeper. We can disagreement unanimously day as to whether Bayern be worthy of possessed a fine once Gabriel picked the sphere upwards (although my own sight is you do checkup the ref burden upwards twice).
What we cannot refute is that Harry Kane for unanimously his colorful impulse scoring exploits is a disgrace of a player. his peeking endorse in the past aggressively aggressively shouldering Gabriel in the throat (if it was his face it may have bombarded him out).
The outright push of Gabriel while messing around for sperz that sent out him proper into the hoardings.
The endure on the Liverpool player (was it Robertson) on the midway pitch upwards.
The rumbling of gamers once they checkup jump for a sphere. Simply the stomaching there and also then that measure endorse.
That isn’t “morbid arts”, that is a player purposely going out to do someone!… I wear’t supply a apes about England while that cretin is in the team. The bloke is a vicious and also a scumbag. Preferably he will receive his comeuppance in the direct future and also languishes an injury that medians he misses the euros!
Rollo
Harry Kane be worthy of gone and also a ton more Mishmash verdicts
I went to the arcade on Tuesday evening and also believed overall Mishmash bottled it slightly. Bayern were unbelievable and also showed endure yet far from a unbelievable side. Crazy slipups/naivety price us.
Mishmash showed individuality to receive it endorse to 2-2.
A couple of other pointers:
– Harry is a pledging boy to be on the bazaar. If that is then it’s a red. Owning not possessed him in the prem I preserve in mind why I position him so agitating to watch – for an unbelievably talented player he invests an sickening ton of time attempting to win free of price kicks and also dropping over.
– vague on a pointers time of sight re Gabriel pen. When the whistle goes can teams reaction the sphere to snag a impulse kick from whereby they twinge or is it for the ref to recognise? Either strategy pledging boy
– For me the Saka one is a pen. Of training course he dabbled for it yet there is zero policy against that. Neuer furnished a comprehensive stride and also was shifting at the time of contact. It’s a pen. If that’s Messi under Pep at the Camp Nou it’s a 100% a fine.
– Labeling Saka a play muck up in the mail box is a little idiotic IMHO. Players play for fouls unanimously the time and also is portion of the arcade. As above Kane ceaselessly does it – is he a play muck up?
Love being endorse in the CL. Habit European evening. Allianz will be a elongate yet we go doning hope
Ps Metropolis racked upwards some belters. Incision above – I assume they will win PL.
UTG
Dave Gooner (Amersham)
What about that Gabriel handball?
To MAW. Thanks for the description. Presently do the Gabriel handball.
PS Was there wasn’t a indifferent reference of this in this early morning’s mail box? Kinda unfamiliar. Wha’ts a ton more stonewall than stonewall?
Derek. Dublin
According to Thomas Tuchel, the umpire admitted he 𝐒𝐇𝐎𝐔𝐋𝐃 𝐇𝐀𝐕𝐄 granted Bayern Munich a fine for this shell doning Gabriel 👀
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…I need to admit I did gain MAW’s rigorous ‘confirmation’ why Saka been entitled to a fine v Bayern, although I’m gutted theorizing that I need to have missed his reasoning as to why the umpire was address not to accolade a fine for Gabriel’s absolute mind-fart.
Had that arised during any other match, can you predict the reportings we’d be wading doning thereafter? Either it was a nasty or it wasn’t. To say you’re not attending accolade a stonewall pen theorizing that the sneak pioneering to it was so dumb it beggars ideology, blows me as being at exquisite favouritism, at worst, wanton corruption.
Dan, LFC fanatic, BEDFORD
Oh to be the Mailbox compiler…
I’m pledging sufficient to gain my job yet sporadically you still receive envious of others, and also this early morning I located myself envying whoever picks the mails for mail box at f365.
Vividly you vital a mail from both sides of the Saka fine shell. The initially was simplistic – ‘hey males, I’ve got a Bolsters supporters labeling it an embarrassing little of cheating’ – yet picking the shell for the defence need to have been difficult. Until you located Matt from LA.
Matt’s tortuous defence is dissertation length yet inevitably boils down to 2 things 1) we can’t checkup inside Bukayo Saka’s psyche and also 2) Saka can’t predict the future. The fact that if you permitted these defences you could gain service of them for entirely anything doesn’t postured Matt off – what’s to shun a defender that implements a handball from motto they didn’t consider to handball it and also they didn’t know the sketchy assailer was attending kick the sphere at his hand – yet also if we permitted them his confirmation is both pleasurable and also ridiculous.
Unless Manuel Neuer can teleport himself immediately the inkling that Saka was flicking his leg out to hurdle over a potentially susceptible Neuer is just laughable – Neuer wasn’t on the floor and also Saka provided he wasn’t and also couldn’t viable be that once he gotten grip of a decision to reaction his proper leg in a faultlessly unnatural strategy. The dumb point is if he just rounds the caretaker he can rating, so it was unanimously extensively peripheral. Let’s mobile phone call it what it was – an embarrassing little of cheating. And also indeed, I’m a Bolsters fanatic, yet I in addition have eyes.
Phil, London
…Nicely that was a disturbingly long e-mail from MAW, LA Gooner in defence of Saka and also the non-fine.
I would counter that by motto it wasn’t a fine, the umpire got it place on, and also he be worthy of gone spheric the caretaker and also racked upwards. And also he was pledging it wasn’t a card for unleashing contact doning the caretaker, too!
Go to, that simplistic sufficient.
Tim (Mishmash will still qualify by pleasing in Munich – then fulfill Metropolis in the semis!)
…Considerable appearances upwards the interpretation of “clutching at straws” and also you will the majority of viable be postured doning MAW LA Gooners (disturbingly verbose ) e-mail.
I assume the indifferent point that e-mail has attained is rendering me self-heedful about how I measure over brief barriers.
David, Ireland
…Buddy, please – what planet are we living in whereby the Harvey Elliot one isn’t a pen, and also Saka’s is – I blame the internet and also social media, the Levellers were proper! In both pods the guarding player overcommits themselves – Elliot lugs on running and also is pilfered down, Saka avoids running and also kicks the caretaker!
Likewise, utilising the phrases “plays” and also “stonewall pen” in unmodified missive is as perplexing and also troubling as Arteta’s brows.
Finally, Liverpool gamers aren’t egotistic, just inept – either strategy they should be self-conscious for not being able to postured away Unified despite 3 exertions unanimously doning irreproachable arcade strategies from the supervisor – they have enable Klopp down. Maybe this is whereby Pep is basically (if boringly) exquisite – his gamers never appear to enable him down.
Gofezo (cheers)
…I a ton reaped MAW, LA Gooner’s exercise in emotional gymnastics Mailbox submission this early morning about the Bayern/Saka fine shell. If 1036 words (I inspected) are vital to explain Bukayo Saka’s activities (and also/or to insist that his activities are inexplicable and also Bergkampesque lol), it’s a little of a red flag.
MAW has postured Saka’s activities as binary – either “a wily play” or “illegal”. It is peeking at the shell entirely from an Mishmash standpoint, infatuating on Saka’s believed strategy and also using an “innocent until proven guilty” standpoint, rather than peeking at it from the standpoint of the umpire/VAR policemen. They should weigh whether Neuer has fouled Saka by fumbling him, or Saka has fouled Neuer by kicking him, or Saka is simulating a pilgrimage.
They in addition should choose what to do if both gamers have fouled each other. It is not a stonewall fortitude. Ian Wright (among others) seeing it in different ways is a legible indicator of that. I particularize that inevitably it be worthy of still been a fine, based on Neuer rendering a convenience towards the sphere and also being in motion towards Saka rather than prospered. Yet Saka’s activities go away the stature of the fine from “stonewall” to “upon further reflection”.
Instead of condemning the umpire and also VAR policemen, Mishmash supporters should be condemning Saka for attempting to instigate a fine that would viable have been postured if he possessed just dabbled sporadically instead. Or also just tried to stay on his feet and also rating in an almost-vacant internet.
Oliver Dziggel, Geneva Switzerland
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What have Mishmash attained?
Dear MAW. Thank you for the motto “filching a excursion down a hyper-subjective bunny stoppage”. I cant assume why yet that choosy motto led me know your mail.
It was a dive; a dive we’d joy if it was our team. a dive the majority of gamers do. A dive that categorically did not build a stonewall fortitude. A dive from a player gleaning pretty a stature for scuba (and also bar that is in addition gleaning that stature). Behaviour we’ll laugh at once executed for Mishmash, yet viable buttress in the summer season for England.
Yet to testimony on your last time, about how allegedly we’re unanimously hell curved on sabotaging your success. Simply, “we” aren’t, theorizing that you place’t attained anything yet?
Arteta has executed also worse than Rafa, also worse than Poch… He’s mirrored Brendan Rogers (once Brendan was colorful than Arteta) and also owning spent far less silver silver money. Unless you’re notifying me Mishmash supporters were bothering the mail box to intensity those folks? You’ve executed disturbingly faultlessly and also it need to be entirely colorful and also self-resoluteness augmenting being an arsenal fanatic at the mo’.
Your resided endure is infinitely much more discussed, and also unanimously those required have executed a unbelievable job. Yet you’ve furnished nowt that a fanatic of another bar should be posturing you credit for? Neutral press correspondent, yeah. of training course. Yet resistance supporters? why would we twinge to ethically gain an metrology on how you are executing? Implement you action ETH on how a ton he’s overseen to readjust or just action that the bar is a basket shell doning zero axiomatic pizzazz of play?
Can any Gooner please for the love of god explain why your own merrymaking needs to be ostensibly verified? I wrote this at the start of the season, as assorted Gooners tried to explain how Metropolis posturing Mishmash a 7 time head start on 01 January 2023, yet your coating 5 times behind them (and also their owning a genuinely petite times totality amount as faultlessly) was not that unbelievable a point for us. Most certainly colorful for you. Equal to the enjoyable LFC reaped in the race in 2009, or 2014, or Bolsters supporters under Poch and also so on.
Your enjoyable does not necessitate our credit, and also that’s a unbelievable point as we’re not viable to supply you any. You are owning enjoyable and also we extensively reaped laughing at you. Both says exist at unmodified time. If you win the title this year you’ll receive credit (from unanimously yet the vitriolic loons integral to the internet), if you wear’t you’ll be a figure of enjoyable anew. Yet I would assume your unborn second or 3rd anew would still be a certain for you.
Tom G
On those 3 comprehensive telephone refers to as
Ample and also competitive initially pair of Winners League quarter-finals. Gazing at the 3 comprehensive umpire conversing times from the Mishmash v Bayern arcade I’d try to supply this bazaar snag.
Bayern fine for Gabriel handball. If the ref longed to supply it he arguably could have and also been backed upwards in techie law, however once has any man ever in the history of football ever postured this as a fine, or once it occurs outdoor the box once has this ever been postured as a free of price kick. We holler out for refs to use a ton more ordinary sense and also analyzing of the arcade, here is an instance of a ref executing just that and also he still retrieves it in the neck.
Kane viable red card for the elbow. There is zero skepticism Kane understands what he’s executing, he appearances for Gabriel and also renders a convenience in to him faultlessly in the past he has any purpose of messing around the sphere. Yet, anew, it is unbelievably rare for a player to be sent out off for what Kane did, a unprejudiced red for an elbow would sporadically necessitate a ton a ton more of a swing of the arm doning the time of the elbow. A yellow card was the address fortitude.
Saka viable fine. This is the one that will divide humans the the majority of, aggressively Mishmash supporters assume it is and also rival supporters of Mishmash will say Saka dived – just as it would be doning any other team in this shell. If it’s your team you twinge it. This falls in to the team of ‘watched them postured’, and also it would be unrealistic to have been rescinded by var. Saka shouldn’t have to hurdle Neuer yet there is most certainly a shell for Saka rendering sure there was contact. It is a 50/50 mobile phone call for me.
Overall the ref did faultlessly in the strategy he overseen the arcade. Gazing forward to the rejoinder leg in Munich. Bayern ‘s endure in the party showed and also furnished upwards for any noted crater in attribute between the 2 sides, which was arguably overblown due to Bayern uncharacteristically fumbling in the Bundesliga – yet a front pitch upwards of Musiela, Sana, Gnabry, Kane, is as unbelievable if not much more discussed than anything Mishmash have challenged in the prem this season.
Lush, AFC
Mishmash are endorse and also it’s exquisite
Sweet to be endorse in the Winners League messing around the exquisite in Europe. In spite of Bayern not pleasing the League, to attractiveness doning their team and also checkup a Winners League pleasing and also jogger-upwards supervisor and also assume Mishmash should win well would have been dumb. Whilst multiple will compose in about the handball or the fine, I twinge to commend Tuchels systems and also the gamers that postured them to job.
Tuchel pressed 4 gamers upwards optimal the totality match, marking us guy for guy messing around out from the endorse. This obliged Oedegaard to sag much deeper to accord upwards the sphere, importuning upwards Rice and also Jorginho. This implied Mishmash were obliged to play down the wings whereby Bayerns Laimer and also Goeratzka (sp?) possessed to job their arses off monitoring and also going 2:1 on Martinelli and also Saka. They implemented this semblance extremely and also was an excellent midfield performance yet they know they didn’t have to perturb as a ton about the middle theorizing that Rice and also Jorgi wear’t sporadically press so high upwards.
When they did press upwards, Bayern got the sphere forward as promptly as viable to Sane and also Gnabry that have the price and also guile to sprinted at Mishmash in the past they can package. Kane was shedding to build enclosure interpretation that Sane and also Gnabry could gamble and also not camisole receiving answered.
Kiwior was introduced and also our endorse pitch upwards was outrun by exquisite techie capacities in receiving the sphere out wide as promptly as viable.
It was a irreproachable aluminum foil for Mishmash and also it took Arteta rendering some equalizes to exert manipulate, calmer heads and also a little of our own techie hoax doning Jesus to receive endorse proper into the arcade.
Sweet arcade and also faultlessly poised. Arteta has verified unbelievable convenience this season whereby he never possessed verified any in the past. How he determines Bayern away will be a comprehensive check-up of his supervisory credentials. I’m just attending gain the getaway as I have missed being in these strengthens for a long long time and also we basically attractiveness prefer we belong.
Rob A (50/50 pen, handball would have been vengeful, Kane messing around a perilous arcade) AFC
Heeeeeeere’s Stewie
To any of the wanting Gooners that actually miss the Arsene Wenger years, there was some exquisite Emirates nostalgia on unveil last evening! Almost unanimously of the Highest Emirates CL hits blared out:
Quick eager start? Locate
Missed sitter shortly after early opener? Locate
Sense of usual inevitability that dearth of excellent instinct will be immediately, ruthlessly punished by a veteran team? Locate.
Compulsory gifted Kane impulse? Locate.
An resistance team in reprehensible form, receiving just the corrective, via a unbelievable relaxing Emirates endure? Locate
Ex lover-Mishmash player retrieves typical impulse? (Favor Walcott for Southampton last season) Locate
Mishmash comedy of missteps gifting the resistance facetious circus purposes you wouldn’t checkup in an under-12s component? Locate
I spare a believed for unanimously the usual deluded folk that wrote in proclaiming Saliba as “the exquisite CB in Europe on form”. “On form” is a disturbingly on-brand point for Mishmash in choosy theorizing that that “form” has resulted in zero league title in 2 decades and also zero CLs. “Kind” however… 🤔“On form” Saliba is Thuram, sure. On actual trophies and also success, he isn’t also Wes Morgan. We in addition saw why he doesn’t start for France: Deschamps understands a point or 2. 🙄
Did I reference Kai Havertz? Oh proper, of training course not – theorizing that it wasn’t Brentford, Brighton or Burnley. (But Bayern does start doning a “B” 😂😂). £65m to disappear in CL ko strengthens, cool cool. Prearrangement!
The struggle to scrape past a sketchy Porto on pens be worthy of been an indication yet of training course, those of us pointing this out were dethroned. Since although “on form” Mishmash are the exquisite team in Europe, “in Truth”, the actually Bulky bars prefer Bayern, will always university the pretenders – zero matter how poverty-stricken their “form”. That Munich rejoinder tie could be unsympathetic.
Stewie Lion (“on form”, I could rating 89 times in the NBA Champ finals and also blag supper at the Fat Duck. In fact, I couldn’t rating in a whorehouse and also I’m eating leftover payoff noodles off the sidewalk)
In which are you Declan?
At some time we will should clarify Declan Rice’s going away skit against FC Bayern the other day against Gorezka and also Laimer.
Kufre, Nigeria
On fines and also initially galleries
Mishmash Supporters and also any other supporters that are victimised by referees doning relates to to Penalties
If the pundits, your own supporters and also neutrals are separated on if it’s a fine then its arguably not a “stonewall” fine.
If you assume you should compose 1000 words on the mobilities of humans’s legs then it’s arguably not “stonewall” either.
Stonewall is Stephen Taylor’s army audition.
I assume you’re conversing a ton more about the “I’ve watched them postured yet then anew..”
Anyway the brand-modern optimal mutts at job arrived from the US a couple of months ago, since he arrived he’s possessed the the majority of superior initial to English Football.
1st Video game – Person Unified 4 Liverpool 3 – entirely bonkers arcade, 4 added time purposes, 2 in injury time of added time.
2nd Video game – Bolsters 2 Brighton 1 – slightly less bonkers, yet a winner 6 mins proper into injury time
3rd Video game – Chelsea 4 Person Unified 3 – another bonkers arcade, equaliser and also a winner in the 100th and also 101st minute.
So 3 galleries, 17 purposes, 7 of which arrived after the 90th min, unanimously gotten grip of a decision in the last mins. It can indifferent receive also worse, yet what a start.
I preserve in mind filching a girlfriend to her initially arcade – a actually sickening Wycombe 1 QPR 0, threat-free of price to say she didn’t go anew.
Matt
Rock fulfills difficult enclosure
Whilst pretending to job today yet reading the amenity about Mishmash’s sprinted in, it immediately surfaced to me that the chance a real dichotomy for Liverpool supporters could arise on the last day of the season.
Picture, if you will, Mishmash and also Liverpool are tied at the optimal of the league on times doning impulse argument slightly in Mishmash’s favour and also Everton are in the substructure 3 warranting a win to stay upwards.
What would Liverpool supporters advice? Mishmash to win, and also in executing so squeezing the title and also sending out Everton down? Or Everton to win, handling up the title for Liverpool yet in addition assuring themselves another season of misery at the substructure of the Premiership?
Me, I assume Everton have brought entirely entirely nothing to the Premier League for the last decade or so and also would be cheery to checkup them go down to inhabit the latest and also shiniest arena in the Champ, yet, I a lot twinge us to win the title anew if indifferent to piss off unanimously the Mishmash, Citeh and also Person U supporters.
The shortcoming however, is Everton supporters would never shut upwards about pleasing the title for us.
In the end however, I would advice to have another title in the bag and also have 3 bars supporters vex theorizing that that would sketchy a ton more! (checkup what I did there?)
Mike Swords, Wigan, LFC till I die.
